Jo Reed: How did you connect with imprisoned people? What was that process like finding them and looking at their art? How did you go about that?

Nicole Fleetwood: So I started small with what I had and what I knew, and I told my cousins, at some point I said, you know, "I want to do a book about art in prison," and my cousin Allen who at the time was in prison, thankfully he's released now, he laughed, and he said, "How are you going to do that?" He said, "Everyone in here considers themselves an artist," and it was just great insight for me around also like what people do when they're held captive, when everything that's familiar and they love is taken away from them, a lot of people turn to like their creativity as one site of autonomy or semi-autonomy.